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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011-04-07 - Planning Commission MinutesCity of Corcoran Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Thursday, April 7, 2011 Chair Hank called the Planning Commission meeting of April 7, 2011 to order at 7:00 p.m. a. Present were Commissioners, Darrell Krueger, Pat Hank, Dean Jacobs, , Rick Ravnholdt, Robert Laddusaw, and Nell Kadlec. b. Not Present: None c. Others present for the meeting: Council Liaison Roz Milbrandt, Council member Rich Asleson, Alternate Commissioners Loren Kohnen and Meredith Wu, Administrator Dan Donahue, and Planner Kendra Lindahl, 2. Pledge of Allegiance Open Forum 4. Approval of- a. Agenda. MOTION made by Ravnholdt /Jacobs to approve the agenda as presented. All voted aye. (Motion carried 6:0) b. Minutes of January 1, 2011. MOTION by Kadlec /Krueger to approve as presented. All voted aye. (Motion carried 6:0) c. Minutes of March 3, 2011. Donahue pointed out that this technically was a joint meeting between the Planning Commission, the Park Commission, and the City Council with the council presiding. The council had already approved the minutes at their meeting on March 24, 2011. However, during the meeting of March 3, 2011, the Planning Commission did elect the chair and vice -chair for 2011. Donahue recommended that the Commission affirm the council's approval of the minutes. Motion made by Ravnholdt /Laddusaw to affirm that the minutes of the Joint meeting of March 3, 2011 are correct. All voted aye. (Motion carried 6:0) 5. Unfinished Business. 6. Ordinance Update a. Staff Report. Lindahl summarized the staff report and the draft ordinance amendments. b. The following comments were shared regarding the RSF -2A zoning district: 2. Milbrandt expressed concerns about the small setbacks 3. Hank said he felt it was a "race to the bottom" and would allow too much flexibility to developers 4. Kadlec said she is concerned that the city cannot control where the green space would be 5. Jacobs likes the lot averaging but suggested that more work is needed on setbacks 6. Kadlec is concerned it is a way for developers to get around the rules, but likes the idea 7. Krueger likes the lot averaging but would like more control over the benefits 8. Ravnholdt thinks 15 & 20 foot setbacks are okay. Would like the flexibility to ensure that all the homes don't look the same. 9. Laddusaw likes it 10. Hank is skeptical that it will work well for the city. Thinks it will be abused by developers 11. Kohnen says PUD works great and we don't need this 12. Kohnen says front yard setback must be more than 20 feet so cars don't hang into ROW City of Corcoran Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Thursday, April 7, 2011 13. Wu likes the flexibility but has concerns about location of and access to green space 14. Kadlec would like some examples of lot averaging a. Lindahl will try to find examples for May meeting c. Design Guidelines for residential districts were discussed 2. Milbrandt noted that Brooklyn Park has similar design standards a. Lindahl will research for next meeting 3. Jacobs likes them 4. Hank likes them but thinks they could be edited down and simplified 5. Several commissioners noted that they don't like side loaded garages. 6. Ravnholdt described homes with undesirable side loaded garages near Wayzata High School in Plymouth 7. Laddusaw doesn't think we need design standards 8. Milbrandt says we should adopt them now because it will only get more difficult in the future d. Setbacks along Arterial Streets were discussed 2. Milbrandt says keep the 100 -foot setback 3. Laddusaw says change to 50 foot setback 4. Ravnholdt says he didn't know yet 5. Krueger says change to 50 feet 6. Kadlec says keep 100 feet 7. Jacobs says keep 100 feet 8. Hank would like it changed to 60 feet 9. Kohnen says keep 100 feet 10. Wu says it should be more than 50 feet e. Setback flexibility in the residential districts was discussed: 1. Commissioners unanimously recommended against this flexibility a. Lindahl will delete this option for May draft b. Lindahl will prepare a summary of setbacks by district for May meeting c. Lindahl will prepare a summary of uses by district for May meeting f. Commissioners discussed the "hobby house" concept and recommended unanimously not allow it in the Rural Residential district g. Commission reviewed the draft Zoning Map dated April 7th and recommended approval. h. The OS &P plan language in the Subdivision Ordinance was reviewed. Lindahl noted that this was the work of the subcommittee and that she only made a couple of formatting changes. 2. Hank asked why there is no minimum lot size proposed in the new language. The current ordinance does have a minimum lot size when individual well and septic are proposed. Hank suggested language could be clearer regarding the non - permanent open space land being available for future development Accessory buildings were discussed: 2. Kohnen said building materials are regulated by the Building Code and cannot be regulated by the Zoning Ordinance and cited a Minnetonka court case 3. Lindahl stated that she believed cities do have the right to regulate materials in the Zoning Ordinance a. Lindahl will bring back a legal opinion for the May meeting City of Corcoran Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Thursday, April 7, 2011 4. Some commissioners expressed draft language with a 15 -foot building height vs. the old sidewall height restriction of 10 -foot sidewall height in the front yard and 13'6" sidewall height max. in the side or rear to accommodate a 12 -foot door. a. Lindahl noted that the draft language provides an exemption for Ag Buildings and retains the CUP for other buildings that exceed this height b. Lindahl noted that 15 feet is a typical limit for surrounding communities but she will provide examples for the May meeting. Lindahl noted that the next Planning Commission meeting is May 5`h. Review of the revisions based on tonight's discussion is the only item on the agenda. k. At the Commission's direction, Lindahl will prepare a clean version of the draft that was in the April 7`h Packet and redline the ordinance based on tonight's discussion. 7. New Business. None. 8. Reports: a. Council Liaison. Milbrandt updated the commission on the: 1. Sewer and Water Project 2. The Public Works Facility Project 3. The Joint Council /Commissions meeting of March 3, 2011. b. Other Business. None. 9. Adjournment. MOTION by Krueger /Ravnholdt to adjourn. All voted aye. (Motion carried 6:0) Adjourned at 10:36 pm.