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CITY OF CORCORAN
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING
AUGUST 28, 2003
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The Corcoran City Council met in regular session on August 28, 2003 at City
Hall in Corcoran, Minnesota. Present were Councilors Bucher, Gageby,
Guenthner, Lymangood, and Thomas. Also present were Administrator
Vergin, Clerk/Treasurer Tillmann, Attorney Carson, Planner Lindahl, and
Engineer Vander Top. Mayor Guenthner called the meeting to order at 7:00
p.m., followed by the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag.
MOTION by Bucher, seconded by Thomas, and carried unanimously to
approve the agenda with the following addition:
• Information for Zoning workshops under Council Reports
Open Forum
There were two requests from the public to speak during open forum.
Sulaine Pederson and David McStott, Sewer Services to Appaloosa Woods
Council heard from two property owners, Sulaine Pederson, 19233 – 81st Place
North, Corcoran, and David McStott, 11375 – 70th Place North, Maple Grove
who expressed concern regarding sewer needs in their area, the Petersen’s Oak
Hill and Appaloosa Woods subdivisions along the Maple Grove/Corcoran
boundary. Mr. and Mrs. Pederson purchased their home in April 2000, and
were aware at that time of the possibility that they may need to install a new
mound system. They are concerned that there is not enough room on their
property to install a mound system due to the proximity of the wetlands that
occupy a large portion of their property. They would like to connect to city
sewer and water services due to the condition of their existing system, and are
interested in the possibility of being annexed into Maple Grove to connect to
their services. Mr. McStott has not built his home yet in the Peterson’s Oak
Hill Addition. They are wondering what their options are for sewer services to
this area and if the City has a policy in place to pursue this.
Mayor Guenthner advised that properties in this area have been individually
annexed to Maple Grove over a period of years. Sewer and water services to
this area will likely come from Maple Grove. Corcoran needs to determine
how to contract with Maple Grove to service that area. The current Corcoran
City Council does not favor annexation of properties to Maple Grove. The
Council has discussed a contractual or Joint Powers Agreement between the
Cities for services without annexation, but no resolution has been achieved.
The City is currently in the process of negotiating with Maple Grove for
services in other areas.
Engineer Vander Top advised that representatives of the City met with the
neighborhood in 1998. At that time, they reviewed costs and feasibility
reports, and the remainder of residents that had not been annexed did not want
to annex to Maple Grove at that time. He suggested that the residents in the
two neighborhoods explore the possibility of a petition to re-affirm their
interest in exploring a Joint Powers Agreement with Maple Grove for services
to this area. Mayor Guenthner will address this at an upcoming meeting with
Maple Grove.
Call to Order
Roll Call
Pledge of Allegiance
Agenda Approval with Additions
Open Forum
Sulaine Pederson and David
McStott – Sewer Services to
Appaloosa Woods
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REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING
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Mr. McStott questioned if a consensus of the residents was required in order to
proceed, and was advised that there is not City policy regarding this issue.
Mayor Guenthner will provide a report of his meeting at the September 11
City Council meeting. Councilor Lymangood suggested that residents review
council minutes from earlier in 2003 and the past 8 – 10 years when this issue
was addressed, and also review a copy of the Olde Sturbridge neighborhood
petition for accelerated services to that area. There is not currently a written
policy pertaining to sewer services in the City, but the policy should be
completed by early 2004. In the past, properties were annexed in order to
receive services, however, a more common approach is a joint powers
agreement. St. Thomas Church and Mama G’s currently have services from
Maple Grove.
John Beddore and Carol LaBerge, Rush Creek Drainage
John Beddore, 9836 Rush Creek Boulevard – Mr. Beddore is a neighbor to
Charles and Carole LaBerge. He is frustrated with lack of progress being
made on their drainage problem. A meeting was held last week with
representatives from Hennepin County and Engineer Vander Top. What can
be done in the short term to solve the problem, and what is the long-term plan
for all of Rush Creek? He is concerned that the culverts on Creekview and
Sundance seem to cause the biggest backlog of water. Photos were taken of
the area in spring of 2003. They were flooded five times in 2002. Hoppe
residence is about 5 years old. Before that resident was built, water went into
the swamp and had no outlet. Now it drains out in two places. More water
seems to be coming off of the field than through Rush Creek. He doesn’t
understand why things have changed. They are having difficulty getting
people to listen to their problems and concerns. How do they accommodate
changes so that it won’t affect people downstream? Very few people have
come out to ask residents what their concerns are or what they think can be
done to resolve. Wonders what the city plans for Rush Creek Boulevard and
Sundance? His driveway has been washing out recently and feels that road
grading by Public Works has had an affect on where the water flows. It used
to wash out before his driveway, now it washes out beyond his driveway,
which affects the LaBerge property.
Engineer Vander Top reported that the focus of the report prepared by Itasca
Engineering was primarily for the area of County Road 30 with
recommendations for Rush Creek Boulevard. The report does not authorize
the work. Additional engineering and modeling would be required before the
work could be done.
Floodplain management is a citywide issue and we should be developing a
citywide plan. Directed Engineer Vander Top to provide a list of actions
required by the City to resolve the Rush Creek issue, including coordination
with City Public Works. In parallel, the City should work on a global
floodplain management plan. This information will be shared with County
Commissioner Penny Steele, along with a timeline, once reviewed by the City.
John Beddore and Carole LaBerge
– Rush Creek Drainage
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Councilor Lymangood questioned if Mr. Beddore had been given a copy of the
report. He had received a copy. Councilor Lymangood further stated that this
threat to property is significant and the City needs a prioritized approach to
address drainage issues throughout the City and how we are spending our time
and financial resources.
Consent Agenda
MOTION by Lymangood, seconded by Thomas, and carried unanimously to
approve the consent agenda, with the exception of 5.d. as follows:
5.a. Approve the Regular Council meeting minutes of August 14, 2003, as
presented.
5.b. Approve the City Council Budget Workshop minutes of August 14, 2003,
as presented.
5.c. Accept the Budget Analysis for the month ending July 31, 2003, as
presented.
5.e. Approve the payment of claims #1685 - 1723, in the amount of
$77,989.68, as presented.
Discussion was held regarding consent agenda item 5.d. Planning Commission
Alternate Appointment. Councilor Lymangood questioned how many
residents had submitted applications for consideration. Administrator Vergin
advised that there were two applications submitted and those were given to
both the Council and the Planning Commission for review. The Planning
Commission felt that due to Mr. Stieg’s involvement in community activities
and experience with planning issues, he would be the best fit for the Planning
Commission.
MOTION by Lymangood, seconded by Thomas, and carried unanimously to
approve consent agenda item 5.d. as follows:
5.d. Adopt Resolution #2003 – 49, appointing Dennis Stieg as an alternate to
the Planning Commission for the term ending December 31, 2003.
Presentation
Shawn Irwin, Anderson Agency, presented an overview of the City’s
insurance coverages through the League of Minnesota Cities Insurance Trust
(LMCIT) for the period of August 2003 through August 2004. This year,
increases in the premium for property insurance is due to an increase through
the LMCIT and Worker’s compensation, which the city will most likely
experience next year as well. However, worker’s compensation claims have
been relatively small due to the efforts of Public Works and Police Department
employees.
Councilor Gageby questioned if it would be more practical to increase the
City’s deductible in an attempt to reduce the premium amount. Mr. Irwin
advised that the premiums are already relatively low since the City averages
about four claims per year. The League of Minnesota Cities sets liability
limits.
Consent Agenda Approval
Consent Agenda Item 5.d.
Planning Commission
Appointment
Approve Consent Agenda Item 5.d.
Presentation – City Insurance
Coverage
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MOTION by Bucher, seconded by Thomas, and carried unanimously to
accept the insurance policy renewal through Anderson Agency for the period
of August 2003 – 2004, as presented.
Planning Commission Business
Grove Nursery Application/Development Agreement
Discussion was held regarding the site plan application and conditional use
permit request for Grove Nursery Center, to be located on 23.43 acres at the
southeast corner of County Road 30 and Trail Haven Road. Planner Lindahl
advised that Grove Nursery Center, Inc. is requesting approval of a site plan
for a wholesale nursery and a conditional use permit to construct a building
with more than 20 percent steel curtain wall. . At the August 14, 2003 City
Council meeting, the City Council directed staff to prepare a development
agreement for approval at the August 28 meeting. After much discussion,
Council had indicated that they would support the request if the applicant
complied with all of the conditions in the preliminary agreement prepared by
staff and upgraded the building materials to reflect a more residential
character. In particular, the Council indicated that a shingled roof should be
provided and the amount of metal should be reduced. Since the August 14
meeting, the applicant has revised their plans to address the Council’s
concerns as follows:
1. Changed the roof material from metal to asphalt shingle
2. Increased the wainscoting from 3 feet to 4 feet high
3. Upgraded the quality and design of both the main doors and overhead
doors to residential style doors
4. Added decorative hardi-board materials in the roof peak on the north
and south elevations
5. Added a decorative window element in the roof peak area on the north
and south elevations
6. Added decorative shutters to the windows
Attorney Carson has prepared a Development Agreement. Grove Nursery has
reviewed the agreement and agrees with the conditions presented. The
monetary amount for the letter of credit has not yet been determined. The
applicant is present with material samples for the building.
Council discussed various minor modifications to the development agreement,
which staff will incorporate into the final agreement, including a reference to
Exhibit B, clarification on how far south on Trail Haven will be paved, staking
and fencing of the septic area, and Council’s reasoning for gravel parking area.
MOTION by Gageby, seconded by Lymangood, and carried unanimously to
adopt Resolution #2003 – 50, approving a site plan and conditional use permit
for Grove Nursery Center, Inc., for property located at the southeast corner of
County Road 30 and Trail Haven Road, with conditions, based on the findings
on file in the City Clerk’s Office, accepting the Developer’s Agreement as
modified, authorizing the Mayor and City Administrator to enter into the
agreement with Grove Nursery, with understanding that if the agreement is not
approved by both the city and the applicant, further action will be required by
the Council regarding the application.
Accept Insurance Policy Renewal
Grove Nursery Planning
Application and Development
Agreement
Adopt Resolution #2003 – 50,
Grove Nursery Application
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Comments were heard from George Ritten, Grove Nursery, who presented
samples of the architectural shingles, hardi-board siding and concrete lap
siding that will be used on the building to make it appear more residential in
nature.
Ordinance No. 187 – Standards for Greenhouses and Nurseries
Discussion was held regarding the draft ordi nance pertaining to standards for
greenhouses and nurseries in the A-1 and R-1 districts. The City Council
reviewed the draft ordinance at the August 14, 2003 Council meeting and
requested additional revisions to the ordinance language regarding amount of
product grown on site. The Council packet included comments from two local
greenhouses, Broman’s Greenhouse and Chastek Greenhouses, Inc.
The staff report focuses on three areas, one of which being items grown on
site. Staff did not include regulatory items in definitions of terms i.e. how
much is grown on site. Those were put in the section pertaining to conditional
use permit standards. Also, parking/loading areas are excluded from the site
coverage limitation due to the potential for access aisles to be located between
crops.
Area business owners expressed concerns regarding the limits on hours of
operations, lighting, and having all materials grown on site. These types of
businesses would become legal non-conforming businesses under this
ordinance, which would affect their ability to expand or rebuild in the future.
Council questioned if a legal non-conforming business under the ordinance
could apply for and operate under the ordinance with Conditional Use Permit.
There was a concern that a CUP wouldn’t allow sufficient flexibility. Council
also questioned if the hours of operation outlined in the ordinance pertained to
hours of retail sales or operation, because sometimes the business needs to
operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week, during harvest time, for example.
Attorney Carson advised that a CUP would vary depending on the nature of
the operation. There are some operations in Corcoran that are exclusively
wholesale. There are several that also have a retail operation. Questioned if
retail should be permitted. Requested revision to items 2.i and 8.i to state that
hours for sale of product to customers may be established through a
Conditional Use Permit.
Discussion was held regarding item 8.j. Lighting, and how to effectively
address lighting if it is needed for growth.
Comments were heard from Stan Chastek, Chastek Greenhouses, Inc., who
suggested that lighting be allowed as a percentage of the range, meaning a
certain percentage of total square footage of operation or greenhouse area
could be lit at any one time, because it would be hard to be specific with the
lighting due to variations of crops.
Public comment
Ordinance No. 187 – Standards for
Greenhouses and Nurseries
Public comment
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Council agreed by consensus that the percent limit for what is grown on site
should reflect the limit set by the Department of Agriculture, which is 50%.
Mayor Guenthner suggested that the ordinance be revised based on the
comments received and then have a meeting with affected business owners to
address further.
Councilor Lymangood advised that he feels this ordinance seems to be overly
restrictive. Feels that Council is struggling with minute details and trying to
solve problems that we don’t have. Councilor Gageby suggested that the City
is not trying to solve an existing problem, but prepare for the future, to give
more consistency and control.
Mayor Guenthner questioned how this ordinance would limit how Mr. Chastek
is doing business. Chastek responded that his children own the business now
and they may need to expand in the future in order to stay competitive. Hours
of operation could limit their operation. This is their livelihood and they work
hard to get a nice crop. Not allowing operation on Sunday would take away a
lot of business, as many other vendors require inventory over the weekend.
Allowing lighting only during the day would also limit their business, however
most of their business is seasonal.
Council agreed to distribute copies of draft ordinance with a cover letter to all
business licensed through the State Department of Agriculture and set a
meeting to discuss the draft ordinance, accepting input from those licensees,
addressing broader discretion relating to customer visits (2i and 8i), lighting
(2j and 8j) and amount grown on site (2m and 8m). Also suggested discussion
point include retail vs. wholesale operations
Ordinance No. 189 – Sign Ordinance
Discussion was held regarding the draft sign ordinance presented for
consideration. The Planning Commission has reviewed the draft ordinance
and is recommending approval by the Council at this time. Staff will prepare a
sign permit fee schedule for approval at a future meeting. The fees will take
into consideration the administration and enforcement of the ordinance.
Attorney Carson had met and discussed the proposed ordinance with the Sign
Committee and has made several revisions since the Council last reviewed the
ordinance. Council requested a clarification to Subdivision 4, Item 6 to read
as follows:
“All residential or commercial United States Flags are exempt.”
MOTION by Gageby, seconded by Bucher, and carried unanimously to adopt
Ordinance No. 189 – Sign Ordinance, as amended.
Unfinished Business
Open House Newsletter
Discussion was held regarding the public newsletter for the September Open
House. To send the newsletter in color, including postage would cost
approximately $2000, and black and white, including postage would cost
approximately $1000. Council agreed by unanimous consensus to send the
color version of the newsletter.
Ordinance No. 189 – Sign
Ordinance
Adopt Ordinance No. 189
Open House Newsletter
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Comprehensive Parks and Trails Plan – Consultant Services
Discussion was held regarding consultant services to complete a
comprehensive parks and trails plan. The City has received a proposal from
Bonestroo, Rosene and Anderlik Engineering Services for consideration. As
directed, Administrator Vergin contacted several area professionals to validate
the proposal. Comments received indicated that the proposal was fair and
economical for what we want to have done. The Parks and Trails Commission
also met on August 25, 2003 and reviewed the proposal. They are comfortable
with Sherri’s qualifications and the proposal submitted, and are recommending
that Council accept the proposal as presented.
MOTION by Lymangood, seconded by Thomas, and carried unanimously to
accept the proposal for the preparation of a Comprehensive Park Plan
submitted by Sherri Buss, Bonestroo, Rosene and Anderlik, as presented.
Parks and Trails Commission Appointments
Applications for Parks and Trails Commission appointments are being
accepted until September 4, 2003 and will be considered by the Council on
September 11. Vacancies are advertised in the Crow River News and on the
City’s website. Several applications have already been received. It was
suggested that Councilors Gageby and Lymangood both continue to serve as
liaisons on the Commission for the time being.
Mama G’s/City of Maple Grove
Engineer Vander Top advised that he has been working with Jerry Butcher,
City of Maple Grove, to identify costs associated with providing infrastructure
services to the Mama G’s area. Mayor Guenthner and Engineer Vander Top
will be meeting with the City of Maple Grove Mayor and City Engineer on
September 4. Engineer Vander Top has received a letter from the City of
Maple Grove outlining estimated costs of area charges associated with the
three development scenarios. Costs estimates are based on discussion at the
joint meeting and the request of both councils to explore the three associated
costs. Costs need to be discuss with the property owners that comprise the 40
acres. Engineer Vander Top has reviewed the numbers and feels that changes
need to be made and the Cities need to reach an agreement regarding the size
of the service area. Maple Grove only wants to service the Mama G’s site.
Comments were heard from the following:
Mike Leuer and Scott Dalke, Moen Leuer Construction -- Own 64 acres of
property adjacent to Mama G’s. They are interested in building two or three
different types of residential units on the property. They have been in contact
with Engineer Vander Top regarding the process with the City of Maple
Grove.
Ken Streeter, Streeter Development – Feels comfortable with the City’s review
of the area charges. They are prepared to participate on an equitable basis.
Monies should be spent on the improvements to that corner. Four acres
doesn’t work for Mama G’s and only focusing on four acres is not good
planning. They will wait for service to the 12 acres if necessary.
Transportation is a bigger issue than capacity.
Comprehensive Parks Plan –
Consultant Services
Acceptance of Proposal
Parks and Trails Commission
Appointments
Mama G’s/City of Maple Grove
Public Comments
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Councilor Lymangood suggested the City request information regarding any
traffic studies that had been completed for the intersection of County Roads 30
and 101. He questioned what is the current grade at the intersection and what
will it become with temporary signals? Does not feel that capacity issues have
been adequately addressed.
Engineer Vander Top advised that of the three options, Maple Grove’s council
is favoring service only to the four acres currently utilized by Mama G’s.
Corcoran and Mama G’s feel that 4 acres is not viable.
The following discussion ensued. Adding a temporary signal on a two-lane
road with out turn lanes does not do any good and will have minimal effect on
traffic in the area. Corcoran is not interested in only having service to four
acres and not interested in a temporary signal at the intersection. The sewer
phasing plan identified 40 acres around Mama G’s with a commercial use, of
which 28 acres is developable. The City does not want carrying costs pushing
the land use plan. Staff will follow up on the proposed traffic signal.
Corcoran’s ability to address transportation issues is related to acreage, and
restricting to four acres is not a viable option. Mayor Guenthner and Engineer
Vander Top will meet with Mike Leuer prior to the September 4 meeting with
Maple Grove.
New Business
Litigation Update
Attorney Carson provided a written update on pending litigation, which
Council members should review. Any questions should be directed to
Administrator Vergin or Attorney Carson.
Council Reports
Zoning and Land Use Seminar
Discussion was held regarding Planning Commission and Council attendance
at upcoming zoning and land use seminars. Council agreed by unanimous
consensus to do a similar workshop in-house utilizing existing staff to prepare
for future projects.
Meadow Lane Status
Council was advised that the current lawsuit between property owners has
been continued until October. Therefore, the City will pursue coordination of a
mediation session with the involved parties.
MOTION by Bucher, seconded by Thomas, and carried unanimously to
adjourn the meeting at 9:55 p.m.
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Kary Tillmann, City Clerk/Treasurer
Zoning and Land Use Seminars
Meadow Lane Drainage
Adjournment