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CITY OF CORCORAN
CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MARCH 23, 2004
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The Corcoran City Council held a Special meeting on March 23, 2004 at City
Hall in Corcoran, Minnesota. Present were Councilors Bucher, Gageby,
Guenthner, Lymangood and Thomas. Also present were Administrator
Vergin, Clerk Tillmann, Planner Lindahl, Engineer Vander Top and Parks
Consultant Buss. Mayor Guenthner called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.,
followed by the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag.
MOTION by Thomas, seconded by Bucher, and carried unanimously to
approve the agenda with the following additions:
• Discussion regarding Council attendance for March 25, 2004 Council
Meeting
• Possibility of recess to Country Pizza at conclusion of business
Open Forum
There were no requests from the public to speak during open forum.
Conduct of Business
Mayor Guenthner reminded the audience that tonight’s meeting was not a
public hearing. The public hearing had been held at the March 4, 2004
Planning Commission meeting. He advised that consistent with Council
meeting procedures, he would allow some public comment if appropriate or if
a Councilor recognized a member of the audience to comment. The Mayor
also advised that he would exercise discretion to limit public comment if
audience members reiterated comments already made by other audience
members, or if the information presented was not relevant to the topic at hand.
Subdivision Ordinance
Planner Lindahl advised that the subdivision ordinance presented for
consideration was the culmination of efforts by the Council, Planning
Commission and staff, and incorporated much of the public comment taken
during the open houses and Public hearing held on March 4, 2004. The
document is not a static document and Planner Lindahl expects that there will
be changes in the future. The subdivision ordinance relates to the required
procedures for subdividing property in the City of Corcoran.
After brief discussion Council agreed by consensus that there were four
sections that needed discussion or clarification as follows:
Section 945 – Design Standards
Mayor Guenthner questioned if the design standards were considered as
guidelines to follow, or were compulsory. Planner Lindahl advised that the
design standards are compulsory, not to be confused with the Design
Guidelines, which are an appendix to the Zoning Ordinance.
Councilor Bucher requested clarification regarding the minimum street widths,
advising that 24 feet is too narrow for emergency service crews. Engineer
Vander Top advised that street widths would be addressed in the Engineering
Design Standards, and suggested a change to the section to read that street
widths would be set in conformance with engineering design standards.
Call to Order
Roll Call
Pledge of Allegiance
Agenda Approval
Open Forum
Conduct of Business
Subdivision Ordinance
Section 945 – Design Standards
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Engineer Vander Top also advised that the Engineering Design Standards
were not ready for approval by the Council, but would be approved as a
separate document and referred to in the subdivision ordinance.
Section 940 – Open Space Preservation Plats
The Open Space Preservation Plats are proposed as a Conditional Use in the
Rural Residential Zoning District, and outside the MUSA boundary and
potential Future Urban Service Area. Council had no changes to this section.
Section 925 – Premature Subdivisions Prohibited
Councilor Gageby advised that this issue had previously been discussed by the
Council but requested that it be revisited. He feels that there may be
unintended consequences to prohibiting premature subdivisions, and that
assumptions were made related to factors that may or may not apply to every
situation. In regards to the proposed Senior Housing project proposed by
Hope Community Church, he feels that the project fits the underlying land use
plan and will not be allowed based on a technical interpretation of the Zoning
Ordinance. The development of the senior housing project would be
premature if it required infrastructure. For a developer that needs road and
sewer services, this type of development would be premature. Hope
Community Church is not asking for those types of services, and the project
fits the underlying Land Use Plan. There is not disagreement among the
Council that the project is good. Feels that the developer, not the City, should
be able to decide when a good time to develop would be. Would like to
amend the section to read that the City would allow certain developments that
fit the Land Use Plan to develop as a PUD, provided that there is no need to
add infrastructure, provided that the development is only premature of the
City’s staging plan. He advised the Council that he had spoken with Attorney
Carson, who advised him that this would be feasible. Feels that Hope
Community Church is inadvertently being prevented from providing an asset
to the community with the senior housing project, based on a technical
interpretation of the ordinance. Suggested that certain other criteria would
have to be met if premature development is allowed, such as the developer
signing a binding agreement with the City attesting that no services (new or
improved roads, sewer) are needed for the project, agreement to connect to
services when they become available, no underdevelopment of the site and
that the project is consistent with the long term vision of the City’s
Comprehensive Plan.
Planner Lindahl advised that according to the ordinance, development must be
consistent with the staging plan. In order to allow premature development, the
staging plan would have to be amended.
Councilor Lymangood added that there has been a significant amount of
debate regarding the entire Hope Community Church project over the past
several years. Feels that changing the ordinance at this time would be more
than a technical correction and feels that not allowing premature development
is fundamental to the implementation of the Comprehensive Plan. According
to page 52 of the Comp Plan, phasing in the NE area of the city is reliant on
Section 940 – Open Space
Preservation Plats
Section 925 – Premature
Subdivisions Prohibited
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infrastructure services and transportation improvements before development
is appropriate. If the plan is changed, it should only be done with significant
public input. If the Comp Plan were modified as Councilor Gageby is
suggesting, any number of parcels in the NE area would be available for
development immediately if Hope Community Church were allowed to
development prematurely. Is against changing the Comp plan because the
City of Maple Grove is having this same problem right now and it has placed
significant demands on City Staff and resources.
Councilor Bucher added that he agrees with Councilor Lymangood and feels
that the City should not be diluting its focus and maybe consider in 6 – 12
months. Councilor Thomas agreed, stating that this issue has been looked at
extensively, and is not in favor of making any changes to the ordinance or
Comp Plan at this meeting. Mayor Guenthner added that there are thoughtful
observations on both sides of the issue, but not sufficient consensus to change
anything tonight. Agreed that the issue could be reviewed at some point in the
future.
The following public comments were heard:
Brian Lother, Pastor, Hope Community Church, 19951 Oswald Farm Road –
Thanked the Council for allowing him the opportunity to address this issue
with the Council again. Does not want the Council to adopt something that
would be done just to allow Hope Community to proceed with their project.
Reiterated that their project would not require anything from the city for roads
or sewer services. The project is an extension of their current ministry and
they will revisit the project in the future if they are unable to proceed at this
time. The process has evolved over a five-year period and information has
changed in that time period, i.e. the Met Council has changed their staging
plan since Corcoran began this process. Reminded the Council not to lose the
long-term focus for the community. Senior housing is a here and now need in
this community, and the concept has been positively received by their
congregation membership, the Council and Planning Commission and other
members of the community.
David Andersen, 20320 Hillside Drive – The PUD process can be used as a
tool to control development, and could alleviate concerns at the Hope
Community site regarding the timing and quality of the project.
Tony Kuekle, United Properties – Presented a petition signed by 80% of the
property owners in the commercial/SW district stating that they would be
willing to pay for services in the area if the Council would consider
accelerating the staging. Not sure if future development would support the
cost of services if done according to the staging plan.
Section 955 – Park Dedication
Sherri Buss, Consultant, Bonestroo, Rosene, Anderlik and Associates, was
present to provided an overview of Section 955 relating to Park Dedication.
Buss advised that State legislation requires that Cities provide a rational basis
for what is charged for Park Dedication fees. The Park Commission has
Public Comments
Brian Lother, Hope Community
Church
David Andersen, 20320 Hillside
Drive
Tony Kuekle, United Properties
Section 955 – Park Dedication
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recommended adoption of the language included in the draft Subdivision
Ordinance. The new ordinance has requirements for both land dedication and
cash-in-lieu of land. The ordinance establishes dedication as a percentage of
land value based on density for residential and commercial property. It does
not provide a fixed fee dedication amount as has been used in the past. The
Park Commission is recommending that density be calculated based on net
land area using a definition of gross land area minus wetlands and land below
the ordinary high water level. This net land area calculation must be the same
for calculating density and park dedication. The ordinance also references a
Park and Trail map, which has not been completed by the Parks Commission.
The map will be completed and adopted by the Council prior to lifting the
development moratorium.
Buss provided an overview of the process followed by the Park Commission
in drafting the park plan, which included a survey of current residents, similar
communities and future usage projections. Based on estimates of costs to
acquire land, the Park Commission established an estimated Park Dedication
fee of approximately $10,640 per acre or $3,550 per unit (3 units/acre) based
on a land value of $100,000 per acre.
Councilor Thomas advised that he feels using a fee based on land value is
inequitable. People that buy land with a higher valuation would end up being
charged more in park dedication fees and that is not fair. Feels the City should
use a flat per unit fee. People living in multi-family housing would be more
likely to use park facilities than single family homeowners, as they tend to
have more land for recreation. Mayor Guenthner questioned when cash -in-
lieu of land could be used. Buss advised that according to the ordinance, it
was at the Council’s discretion to choose cash-in-lieu of land.
Councilor Gageby added that the Park Commission did extensive research to
come to this determination, spending time surveying staff employed by Cities
with significant park facilities. There will come a time when the essential
parkland will be acquired for City parks and trails. Right now we are in the
beginning stages of park development and should be looking at acquiring land
if it fits with the Park plan. In the future, Council may be more likely to take
cash. Buss added that this becomes a negotiation tool for the Council.
Planner Lindahl concurred with Councilor Gageby’s statement that the
Council decides whether to take land or fees according to the City’s Park plan.
Buss added that the ordinance does not obligate the Council to take land.
Councilor Thomas reiterated his objection to taking land irrespective of the
market value of the land, or taking a fee based on the market value of the
property. Councilor Bucher suggested that any fee that is set should be
adjusted annually based on inflation. Mayor Guenthner added that he would
support a single park dedication fee, to be reviewed on an annual basis with
the City’s fee schedule. Councilor Lymangood stated that he is in favor of
collecting park dedication based on a per unit fee and reviewing said fee on an
annual basis. Questioned how the park plan would be implemented if a park
area were identified in a development. Planner Lindahl advised that the City’s
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first authority, according to State Statute, is land acquisition. If a park area is
identified in the City’s Park Plan as being in a development, then the City may
take the land, then consider fees in lieu of the land.
The following public comment was heard:
Bill Halverstadt, 6420 Old Settlers Road – Feels that the model value of
$100,000 per acre is inaccurate. Knows of parcels in the City valued at only
$40,000 per acre, and one recent sale of $10,000 per acre. The City should use
a per unit fee for park dedication. Original intent of the comp plan was to
keep 70% of Corcoran as rural area. An unintended negative consequence is
development.
Mayor Guenther questioned if Developers would be given credit for the
development of private parks. Buss advised that the Park Commission does
not recommend that credit be given for private parks. The Mayor suggested
that developers be given credit for private parks if they revert back to City
ownership after a pre-determined amount of time. Buss added that if the City
chose to do that, the location of the park and how it ties into the City’s park
plan would be extremely important. Councilor Thomas stated that the park
would have to tie into the trail system somehow.
The following public comments were heard:
David Andersen, Planning Commission Liaison to the Park Commission,
20320 Hillside Drive – The Parks and Trails Commission recommended
unanimously that no credit should be given for the development of private
parks. There is no public benefit. Councilor Lymangood added that of the 11
developments toured by Corcoran City officials, all developments allowed
private park facilities, but none gave credit for them.
Terry Forbord, Laurent Development, 100 S. Fuller Street, Shakopee -- Feels
that the process Corcoran has followed to get to this point has been
exceptional, very open and interactive with both the public and developers.
However, disagrees with the park dedication section of the ordinance and
requested that Council table consideration of the adoption of the ordinance
until April 8. Mr. Forbord presented a letter on behalf of Laurent
Development outlining their objections to the park dedication ordinance and
advised Council that Laurent was submitting a legal brief within the next 5
days to the City regarding the ordinance. Information presented at this
meeting was not presented at the public hearing, which is unfair. Councilor
Lymangood advised that the information presented tonight was available prior
to the public hearing and was in the meeting packet, even though it was not
discussed at the public hearing. The entire process has been very deliberate
and the City has attempted to create a compromise in regards to park
dedication.
Councilor Thomas requested clarification regarding land acquisition versus
collecting a per unit fee. Planner Lindahl advised that when a development is
reviewed, the City should consider the dedication of land first, if a park is
Public Comments
Bill Halverstadt, 6420 Old Settlers
Road
Public Comments
David Andersen, 20320 Hillside
Drive
Terry Forbord, Laurent
Development
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identified on the park plan in the development area. If not, then should
consider cash-in-lieu of land. According to state statute, the City has the right
to acquire land. Councilor Gageby added that parks are created through the
acquisition of land, whether purchased or dedicated. The City has the option
of also taking cash, or negotiating other options with the developer. Councilor
Thomas reiterated his disapproval of the requirement of the dedication of a
fixed percentage of the land, irrespective of the market value of the land, or
taking a fee based on the market value of the property. Feels that if the City
wants land for a park, they should buy it and every resident pay for it through
taxes. Councilor Lymangood added that our park dedication ordinance is very
similar to what many other cities have done.
MOTION by Gageby, seconded by Lymangood, to adopt Ordinance No. 192,
as presented.
The motion was amended as follows:
MOTION to amend by Gageby, seconded by Lymangood, and carried
unanimously to amend the previous motion to include an amendment to
Section 945 Design Standards that street width would be designed in
conformance with Engineering Design Standards.
MOTION as amended by Gageby, seconded by Lymangood, and carried
unanimously to adopt Ordinance No. 192, including an amendment to Section
945 Design Standards regarding street widths. Roll call: Bucher, aye;
Gageby, aye; Guenthner, aye; Lymangood, aye; Thomas, naye. Motion
carried.
Councilor Lymangood requested that the Council consider a joint meeting
with the Parks and Trails Commission in the near future.
Mayor Guenthner called a recess at 9:55 p.m. and reconvened the meeting at
10:02 p.m.
MOTION by Gageby, seconded by Bucher, and carried unanimously to adopt
Resolution #2004 – 16, providing for summary publication of Ordinance No.
192 in the City’s legal newspaper.
Zoning Ordinance
Planner Lindahl reported on the proposed Zoning Ordinance being considered
for adoption. A public hearing was held on March 4, 2004 during the
Planning Commission meeting and extensive public comment was taken
regarding the proposed ordinance and zoning map. Map Option A is labeled
“Pro-active zoning” and Map Option B is labeled “Phased zoning”. Planner
Lindahl requested that Council identify which map they would prefer to use in
conjunction with the Zoning Ordinance. Also cited two zoning map issues for
the Council’s attention, which could not be acted on at this meeting. Several
property owners have requested a change in zoning for their properties, which
would require an amendment to the Comp Plan. Mayor Guenthner identified
Adopt Ordinance No. 192
Amendment to Motion
Adopt Ordinance No. 192 as
amended
Joint Meeting with Parks
Commission
Recess
Adopt Resolution No. 2004 – 16
Zoning Ordinance
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Zoning map preference, design guidelines, density calculations, and the
application of boundary lines and precision of the map as items needing
discussion and/or clarification by the Council. The following discussion
ensued:
Zoning Map Preference
Councilor Thomas advised that he prefers Zoning Map Option B – Phased
Zoning. Feels that it is more flexible in allowing development, as with the
Pro-active Zoning Map Option A, people would have to wait for sewer
services to become available before development would be allowed.
Councilor Gageby clarified that all current uses would remain in tact
regardless of which zoning map was adopted.
Councilor Lymangood advised that he also preferred Zoning Map Option B –
Phased Zoning, but was in favor of allowing 1 lot per 20 acres instead of the 1
in 40 acres, as proposed. Feels that the City will begin to experience excessive
pressure for development as has been the experience in Plymouth and Maple
Grove. The City will have greater control with the Phased Zoning, which
reinforces the City’s staging plan. One lot per 20 acres is reasonable. The
Phased Zoning Map is more focused, yet flexible and is a better model for
development.
Councilor Bucher concurred regarding the 1 in 20 acre lot size and questioned
why the recommendation was 40 acres. Suggested that the words “Phased
Land Use” be added to map Option B for additional clarification.
Councilor Gageby reminded the Council that the Planning Commission
recommended Zoning Map option A. Questioned why Council preferred
Option B. Advised that he preferred Option A because the zoning in Map
Option A is identified in the Comp Plan. Feels that there are more advantages
to adopting Map Option A and would eliminate confusion for the public.
Council agreed by unanimous consensus that the minimum lot size should be 1
lot per 20 acres.
MOTION by Lymangood, seconded by Thomas, to adopt Zoning Map Option
B – Phased Zoning, to include the words “Phased Land Use” on the map for
clarification, and a 20 acre minimum lot size. Roll call: Bucher, aye; Gageby,
naye; Guenthner, aye; Lymangood, aye; Thomas, aye. Motion carried.
Design Guidelines
Planner Lindahl advised that the Design Guidelines were advisory only at this
point, but Council could make them compulsory if necessary. They are to be
used to guide development within the MUSA boundary, and include general
guidelines and specific guidelines for each of the three urban areas (Northeast
District, Southwest District and Southeast District, including the downtown
area). Council agreed by unanimous consensus that the Design Guidelines
would remain as advisory at this time.
Zoning Map Preference
Adopt Zoning Map Option B
Design Guidelines
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Density Calculations
Planner Lindahl advised that the draft definition of density is consistent with
what the Metropolitan Council uses to establish post-development density.
There has been some question by developers about the draft definition. Staff
established two definitions, and Council should choose one. Staff is
recommending the use of the net density formula, which is more conservative
than the other definition.
Council agreed by unanimous consensus that the net density calculation
should be used, as recommended by staff.
Application of Boundary lines and map precision
Planner Lindahl advised that according to MN statute, the City’s Zoni ng Map
must be consistent with the Land Use identified in the Comp Plan. In order to
change the land use, the City must hold a public hearing to amend the Comp
Plan, and then amend the Zoning Map. The Planning Commission would
make a recommendation to the Council, which the Council would have to
approve and then make a recommendation to the Met Council to change the
Land Use and Zoning. Property boundaries were not used when identifying
land use areas on the map. Councilor Lymangood requested clarification as to
who could initiate this process. Planner Lindahl advised that either the City
Council or a resident or group of residents could initiate the process.
The following public comments were heard:
Don Tomann, UMC, 22510 Highway 55 – His property has split zoning and
when the process began 7 years ago, he was told that it would be one zoning
by the time the process was complete. He would like the zoning of his
property amended that it is all in one zoning district.
William E. Mason – He owns and operates one of the oldest farms in
Corcoran. Feels that the Design Guidelines should preserve and protect the
rural character of the City. Wants his property to remain as Agricultural
Zoning. Feels that the Council and Planning Commission has done a good job
throughout this entire process, but asks that they move slowly with future
development.
Councilor Lymangood made the following comments on behalf of his
neighbors:The area west of City Hall on County Road 116 designates 20 acres
zoned as Single Family, and 20 acres zoned as Multi-Family. Even though
Council has chosen to adopt Zoning Map Option B (Phased Zoning) there will
be no change to the Land Use. The residents of the 20 acres zoned single
family want to be zoned as Multi-Family to remain consistent with the other
20 acres. The Land Use Map was adopted in 2002, and there have been no
changes since that time. Councilor Lymangood added that any decision
regarding this change should be made by the Council without his participation,
since his personal property is included in this discussion. Also added for the
record that he did not advocate any one zoning over the other when the Land
Use Map was adopted. The property owners adjacent to him are requesting
that the Land Use for the 20 acres designated as single family be amended to a
Density Calculations
Application of Boundary Lines and
Map Precision
Public Comments
Don Tomann, 22510 Highway 55
William E. Mason
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Multi-Family use. Councilor Lymangood requested that he be excused from
the remainder of the discussion and left the Council Chambers.
The following comments were heard from:
David Foy, 8115 County Road 116 – Identified himself as a neighbor to
Councilor Lymangood. Advised that he was given false information regarding
Councilor Lymangood’s involvement in the approval of the zoning for the
property being discussed and apologized to Councilor Lymangood for his past
behavior and comments. He did not understand the process that the Council
was required to follow and was not aware that Councilor Lymangood did not
vote on the adoption of the Land Use Map, since he was not on the Council at
that time. Mayor Guenthner advised that Councilor Lymangood is meticulous
on matters of public process and would not create the appearance of or any
actual impropriety or conflict of interest, and has always acted in that capacity
when serving on the Council and the Planning Commission. Mr. Foy then
stated that the process to have the land use amended is more detailed than they
originally thought and they would prefer that the City take it on, as opposed to
those six residents. The 20 acre parcel zoned Multi -Family could have 400
units on it, and the neighbors don’t want that.
Cheryl Suprison, 8225 County Road 116 – They did not get asked for input
when the land use was designated. There are five parcels that have houses and
one vacant property in the area.
Steven and Darlene Lessor, 8205 County Road 116 -- Would not choose to be
surrounded by high-density housing, and they were not aware that there was a
difference in the zoning. Questioned how residents could initiate a change.
Councilor Lymangood returned to the meeting.
Joe Cavanaugh questioned the sewer phasing of a specific parcel in the SW
corner of the City with Highway 55 frontage. Councilor Lymangood advised
that the phasing of services in that area was conditioned on working with the
City of Medina. There is no Met Council pipe in the area, so we have less
control over the dates that services will be provided. Mayor Guenthner added
that if an agreement can be reached with the City of Medina, Corcoran could
be more flexible with the dates that services will be provided. Guenthner
advised that the Council could not take action on this issue tonight, but that it
would be reviewed and revisited. Councilor Lymangood advised that
residents are always welcome to submit comments and requests to City Hall in
writing. Residents can also be added to email lists to receive meeting agenda
packets.
Planner Lindahl added that facilities such as Golf Courses, City Hall, Lions
Park, Schools, and the City Park would be identified as public institutions on
the Zoning Map. They were identified on Zoning Map A, and should have
been identified on Zoning Map B as well.
Councilor Lymangood is excused
Public Comments
David Foy, 8115 County Road 116
Cheryl Suprison, 8225 County
Road 116
Steven Lessor, 8205 County Road
116
Councilor Lymangood returns
Joe Cavanaugh
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MOTION by Lymangood, seconded by Thomas, and carried unanimously to
1. Adopt Ordinance No. 193, with Zoning Map Option B “Phased Zoning
Map”, with the Public Institutions indicated
2. Adopt the net density formula for calculating density
3. Adopt the Design Guidelines as advisory at this time, and
4. Adopt a 20 acre minimum lot size in the MUSA boundary
MOTION by Bucher, seconded by Lymangood, and carried unanimously to
adopt Resolution #2004 – 17, providing for summary publication of Ordinance
No. 193 in the City’s legal newspaper.
Other Business
Councilor Bucher requested that staff develop a PUD checklist.
Discussion was held regarding the March 25, 2004 Council meeting. It was
determined that there would be a quorum present.
Discussion was held regarding the Spring Newsletter. Councilor Lymangood
requested that information be included regarding the Charter vacancy.
Council requested that a joint meeting be scheduled with the Parks and Trails
Commission between now and September. Directed staff to coordinate
scheduling of the meeting to discuss the Park Dedication Ordinance and
related fees.
Mayor Guenthner expressed his gratitude to the Council for their service
during this process and to the public for taking such an active role in
developing the Comp Plan and related Ordinances. The Council also thanked
staff for the time and energy put into the entire process.
MOTION by Lymangood, seconded by Thomas, and carried unanimously to
adjourn the meeting at 11:20 p.m.
_______________________________
Kary Tillmann, Clerk/Treasurer
Adopt Ordinance No. 193
Adopt Resolution No. 2004 – 17
Other Business
Develop PUD Checklist
March 25, 2004 Meeting
Spring Newsletter
Joint Meeting with Parks and
Trails Commission
Expression of Gratitude
Adjournment