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CITY OF CORCORAN
SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING
FEBRUARY 28, 2004
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The Corcoran City Council held a special council meeting on February 28,
2004 at City Hall in Corcoran, Minnesota. Present were Councilors Bucher,
Guenthner, Lymangood and Thomas. Councilor Gageby was excused absent.
Also present were Planning Commissioners Andersen, Ebert, Johnson, Kluck,
and Stieg, Wastewater Commissioner Cossette, Administrator Vergin, Clerk
Tillmann, Engineer Vander Top, Planner Lindahl, and Attorney Carson.
Mayor Guenthner called the meeting to order at 2:12 p.m.
Mayor Guenthner advised that the agenda would consist of discussion
regarding premature subdivisions. The discussion was for informational
purposes only because there had not been sufficient time during regular
Council meetings to address this topic. Council would take no action at this
meeting.
MOTION by Thomas, seconded by Bucher, and carried unanimously to
approve the agenda as presented.
Premature Subdivisions
Planner Lindahl advised that the City had received two letters regarding
premature subdivisions. One letter was from Hope Community Church,
addressing policies that would allow premature subdivisions. Attorney Carson
also submitted a letter on behalf of Councilor Gageby regarding his viewpoint
on the subject, due to his absence from this meeting.
Planner Lindahl addressed five concerns with allowing premature
subdivisions.
• Premature subdivisions would create underutilized land – allowing lower
densities than the maximum allowed has a significant impact on the City’s
tax base.
• Premature subdivisions would cause a leapfrog effect of developments –
By not allowing premature subdivisions, development occurs consistent
with the phasing outlined in the Zoning Ordinance. Public infrastructure
is also affected by development and the City can focus financial resources
in the areas according to the phasing.
• Premature subdivisions could cause issues with land equity. Land in the
Corcoran area is very valuable, even with well and septic. This shouldn’t
be considered as a reason to provide an exception to the ordinance. If an
exception to allow a premature subdivision is made for one property or
group, the Council should be prepared for additional requests.
• A complete cost analysis has not yet been completed. Engineer Vander
Top is currently working on the cost analysis on a per foot and square
footage basis.
• Premature subdivisions could create road issues, specifically because
regional road issues are complicated and the City is unsure of the County’s
intent for future roads in certain areas, like the northeast district.
Call to Order
Roll call
Agenda Approval
Premature Subdivisions
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Engineer Vander Top added that staff is not in favor of allowing premature
development, based on the five issues identified by Planner Lindahl and issues
associated with those. Attorney Carson added that development could be
difficult for the City if not done in an orderly fashion, consistent with the
Comprehensive Land Use Plan. It is hard to understand today what issues and
effects could be caused by premature development in the future.
Councilor Thomas questioned if the City would be forced to open other areas
of the City prematurely if Hope Community Church was allowed to proceed
with their concept plan. Mayor Guenthner stated that the Council’s
responsibility is to develop a process to fit needs of the City while still
following the process outlined in the Comp Plan. He added that this
discussion wasn’t about the Hope Community Project, they just happened to
be the first one to approach the City. There are other projects out there
waiting to come forward. Council has to define the principles to follow and
then apply those principles to projects as they come forward.
There are strong pros and cons to allowing premature development, and t he
Hope Community Project would be a strong test case. The general consensus
of the group was that it is a good project and something the Council would like
to see, but is not sure if this is the right time. Councilor Thomas added that if
the City would have to allow premature development throughout the City if
this project was approved, the City cannot move forward with the Hope
Community project. Engineer Vander Top suggested that for discussion
purposes, the group focus on what hurdles would have to be overcome and
what issues would the City face if the project went ahead. If the overall flavor
of the project were amenable to the group, it wouldn’t matter who or where it
was. What issues would have to be considered? Commissioner Ebert added
that Parks and Trails are an unknown at this time. How would the trails and
open space areas of the project tie into the City’s overall Parks and Trails
Plan? Will there be a community center in Corcoran at some point in the
future that might provide the same or similar purpose? Is the senior housing
proposed by Hope Community in a location that the City envisioned it would
be?
Commissioner Andersen questioned if it was the City’s intent not to depart
from the phasing outlined in the Comp plan at all, or would there be
circumstances where it would be considered or allowed, and what would those
circumstances be? Mayor Guenthner questioned what benefit escalating the
timeline for development would create? If a project met all other criteria,
what would it do for the City by being completed prematurely?
Comments were heard from Brian Lother, Pastor, Hope Community Church,
19951 Oswald Farm Road. Pastor Lother stated that their letter tried to
identify exceptions or substantive criteria that could be applied to all
applicants when evaluating if premature development was acceptable, as
follows:
Public Comments
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• The project should identify a here and now need. Senior Housing is a
need identified in the City’s Comprehensive Land Use Plan.
Commissioner Stieg questioned if there has been much interest from
Corcoran residents for a senior housing facility. Pastor Lother added that
Hope Community has not polled the community, however, the Oswalds
were hoping to stay in the community after they sold their land to the
church, but there was no place available. Other residents and
congregation members have also expressed an interest in the facility.
• The project should be an expansion of a current program or building
already in existence within the City. Hope Community Church already
exists in Corcoran with a Church building and active ministry programs.
Councilor Bucher stated that he feels senior housing is not an expansion of
the current facility because there is no senior housing currently at Hope
Community. This project would require rezoning and the intent is totally
different from the main use of the facility, which is a Sunday morning
church service. Pastor Lother added that they feel senior housing is an
extension of the ministry provided by Hope Community Church.
Commissioner Andersen added that Word of Peace Church in Rogers
recently rebuilt their church to include a senior housing facility on site
with the church.
• The project should be self-supporting and not require any investment from
the City for infrastructure, nor should the City have to expend funds for
maintenance.
Councilor Lymangood questioned what other cities allow premature
subdivision and under what circumstances? Added that there needs to be a
distinction between what is good about a project and what is the right thing to
do. Feels that allowing premature development is not the right thing to do.
The City should not tailor the Subdivision Ordinance to meet a project’s need.
This is a significant departure from the process followed. Pastor Lother
countered that the City also needs to remain flexible as needs arise, and will
have to address exceptions in the future. If the project is not Hope Community
Church, it will be someone else coming forward asking for an exception.
Councilor Thomas stated that right now, the City does not have a concrete tool
to address the look and feel of the downtown area. Questioned if senior
housing would be better suited closer to the downtown area to allow for
walking traffic to local businesses. Added that the City needs to be further
along in understanding what Corcoran will look like before making
exceptions. Mayor Guenthner concurred, stating that the City needs a more
precise vision for Phase I (the downtown area) before granting any exceptions.
At this time, it appears that there is not sufficient support from the Council to
change the process. However, Councilor Gageby is not present at this
meeting, and has stated, through Attorney Carson’s memo that he would be in
favor of considering premature development.
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March 25, 2004 Council Meeting
Mayor Guenthner advised that he has a schedule conflict with the March 25,
2004 meeting to consider adoption of the ordinances. Would like to discuss
the possibility of calling a special meeting to consider the ordinances so he can
be present. Discussion will be held at the March 11, 2004 meeting.
MOTION by Bucher, seconded by Thomas, and carried unanimously to
adjourn the meeting at 3:27 p.m.
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Kary Tillmann, City Clerk/Treasurer
Consideration of special Council meeting
Adjournment